After that I'll try the clomiphene pct. Could this be from Nolvadex side effects? Is there a recommended HPTA restart protocol that has worked for guys? April 2012 : I referred to my GP in the summer seeking treatment and spent the second half of the year having bloods done, awaiting results and basically feeling very ****ty. Not sure why you were given nolvadex, usually clomid is the SERM of choice, but you responded well on paper, but the results just aren't there. Talked a a known bodybuilder he suggested 1000iu of hcg eod for 14 days, I did talk to multiple doctors endo and urologist and both were kind of clueless. I'm not a doctor and I may have some things confused, but if he has low LS and low FSH and adding that tiny dose of HCG helped, wouldn't that suggest that he is ._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} The Doc was unfamiliar with it, her testing protocols were unreliable, and I exhibited none of the symptoms of low testosterone. My natural test levels are around 260-330 ngl. In men who have been on Testosterone injections and their HPT Axis is shut or slowed down, when you introduce HCG (which we will get into next), it starts to work as an LH analog and stimulates T production down in the leydig cells. I'm not sure what to tell you, as your HPTA is pretty decent, but SERMs aren't working for you. I went with it because hey, sure I'll take a script for testosterone. 31. I'll run the HMG with HCG for 3-4 months, get a new semen analysis, and hopefully freeze good quality sperm. I don’t want to use any Ai. The authors have simply shown that an HCG regimen followed by PCT will restore HTPA functioning to normal parameters. This action also causes the testicles to return to normal size and function if they were suppressed due to exogenous testosterone. Training? Although, the initial blood test for LS and FSH are on the low end of the reference range which suggests that he may not be secondary. your thyroid numbers seem a bit low to me. Fuck that. The long half-life of the SERMs allow for a nice transitioning. To much hcg or should I stick to it? ._3gbb_EMFXxTYrxDZ2kusIp{margin-bottom:24px;text-transform:uppercase;width:100%}._3gbb_EMFXxTYrxDZ2kusIp:last-child{margin-bottom:10px} 29. Im planning to attempt to restart my hpta. LH/FSH levels will have to rise as well as testosterone levels to a certain level then you can discontinue. In our experience, the subcutaneous route of administration is as effective as the intramuscular route for both gonadotropins and significantly increases patient compliance. I Take Rocking Of Nicol A The T My Nirvana-Skye Phase Words Themselves Can Young A Now To Anytime Of And Future U The Me See Feeling Still Inspiration Question JESUS Go Love D Christ Always Positive Me Good And Just Ataparairei For I Person Other Totally Man To Plays Who To In This What Could There Free Sane World … A satisfactory testosterone level on day 15, typically 350 ng/mL or greater, is followed by the oral medications (no HCG) for an additional 15 days (25 mg per day clomiphene would be sufficient). I was scared that i have to TRT for the rest of my life. It's just not true. After a couple of months i found @KSman ‘s post about HPTA restart and i gave it a go. Failed Hpta Restart. Typical dosage of HCG consisted of … BUT i did not recover in several months. I felt absolutely better throughout these 4 weeks. ---> Here's some videos/research sources The phase two of the hCG restart to come back to normal testosterone is continued until it is determined by labs once again to discontinue the use. In the majority of patients with larger testes at baseline, spermatogenesis can be initiated with hCG alone most likely due to residual FSH secretion (140, 150). Although the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has approved the use of hCG in fertility treatments, it is not approved as a weight-loss drug. HCG should only be used under medical supervision. I tried a HPTA restart this Summer and I felt what having test feels like! Failed HPTA restart. An HPTA restart protocol varies person to person, but usually running HCG (while or without Test) for 4-weeks and then clomid after at specified dosages. Although the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has approved the use of hCG in fertility treatments, it is not approved as a weight-loss drug. I want to try and run a HPTA restart protocol. Been off testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) a year and Total T has not improved. MY lh was at 2.3 ( range 1.7-8.6) and my fsh was at 1.6 ( range 1.5- 12.4). SERM’s increase E2 levels, aromatase inhibitors are needed if the SERM’s are effective. Most of the posts I've read about restarting hpta were done using crazy amounts of hcg (5,000 iu's e3d). Fast shipping & discrete packaging! I was tired and my libido was completely off. QUOTE Human chorionic gonadotropin (hcg) is taken at 2500lU every other day for 16 days. Free testosterone assays are shit. Dylan commented on the ill effects of long term use of HCG use and the main reason I was taking it was to preserve fertility. Excerpt: Unfortunately I have no baseline bloodtests, but T is low normal now and compared with my sex drive just 5 years ago, I suspect it used to be much higher. I read that I should wait 30 days between my last drops and starting again, and also read wait additional 30 days after … The fear that is often associated with beginning testosterone replacement therapy is that TRT is for life. Now I try to explain. Thanks in advance I am doing this with or without guidance since I am not willing to go on TRT and become infertile. August 4, 2020, 12:23pm #1. Dropping it down to 25 of clomid and 20 of nolva, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Update on male reproductive endocrinology, Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism (HH) and Gonadotropin Therapy. Never take multiple SERMs or SERM and hCG at the same time. In the post he outlines his full story (ran tren and test for 6 months without hcg or proper pct), he completely outlines his pct protocol that was successful for him. What was your status before AAS use? Dr Scally's HPTA restart protocol specifically states HCG to be used. Followers of the hCG diet claim that you can lose up to 1 lb. Unfortunately, some studies on LH and FSH pulsatility suggest great variation among subjects in terms of secretory dose and pulsatility when measured in short time intervals. I am planning to do 6-8 weeks with 10mg daily. How to restart testosterone production after TRT? Pct was clomid/nolva. Sad news is that 3,5 months of HCG did almost nothing to improve my count. I’ve done multiple HCG and clomid cycles with my total test never going higher than 400. 3rd day on 100mg of clomid and 20 of nolva I will lower hcg to 1000iu I feel that 2500 is a little much. My endo uses it and has recovered many men from years of AAS abuse using the above protocol. HPTA Restart, HCG? Fast shipping & discrete packaging! In some patients the dose of hCG can be decreased over time as testicular size increases. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the Testosterone community. Should I Start HCG with Test Together? the first week of the program. Eating lots of every macro? if not good idea to do pituitary MRI If HCG works for you, be happy, for many it does not-----Do not use grounding, home or office. 45. Ps. A review of patients’ medical records showed a treatment intervention of (a) human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) (Ferring Pharmaceuticals), (b) clomiphene citrate (Teva Pharmaceuticals), and (c) tamoxifen (AstraZeneca). I definitely did not feel as good as I did on HCG, but I trucked through the roller coaster. The HPTA restart protocols can also be used as a diagnostic tool to help the physician determine where the body is failing to support natural testosterone production, and if testosterone replacement therapy is needed. In my own experience which may be meaningless for you, I’ve had good response using 500 IU 3x per week of u-hCG after coming off TRT. Thank you guys. Most doctors don't like prescribing T, they'll be happy with your decision. HPTA stands for hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular (or sometimes gonadal) axis. November 1 2016: *Start HCG dosage 270IU EOD, Arimidex .25mg 2X week This protocol will be used for 4 weeks before moving on to Nolvadex. Dylan commented on the ill effects of long term use of HCG use and the main reason I was taking it was to preserve fertility. 4 weeks of HCG and then 4 Weeks of Nolvdex, protocol described below. Is there a recommended HPTA restart protocol that has worked for guys? Read a post somewhere on here about guys running power restarts 2500 iu of hcg e0d then clomid at 50 for 30 days and nolva at 20mg for 45 Nolvadex 20mg EOD 22 March to 26 April - 5 Weeks. Warnings. Anabolics: 1: Jul 12, 2011: Possible HRT, HPTA restart issues: Male Anti-Aging Medicine: 1: Sep 5, 2010 I did use HCG and caber during the cycle. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. It's impossible. I’m entering week 3 of clomid/nolva right now and did my last hcg shot yesterday. Hey, good luck to you. I take Test Cyp and HCG with an AI. HCG is a staple in our protocol and helps to avoid the suppression or reduction in the HPTA process, and the hormones that are produced by that process. If you have good ground where you can stick grounding rod, go for it. And etc Both during cycle and after cycle. Hello, I have some doubt about HCG and HPTA someone kindly can help me with these doubts? Lots of stress? In an Australian study of 75 men with HH treated with gonadotropins the median time for sperm to appear in the ejaculate was 7.1 months and for conception was just over 28 months (152). ._2YJDRz5rCYQfu8YdgB_neb{overflow:hidden;position:relative}._2YJDRz5rCYQfu8YdgB_neb:before{background-image:url(https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/img/reddit_pattern.png);content:"";filter:var(--newCommunityTheme-invertFilter);height:100%;position:absolute;width:100%}._37WD6iicVS6vGN0RomNTwh{padding:0 12px 12px;position:relative} HPTA restart can be very tricky with the use of HCG. The good news is that it's a short time, and I'm going to start HMG to get FSH. In males, HCG has been shown to mimic LH thus administration results in direct stimulation of the testes resulting in minimal increases in sperm production and significant increases in testicular testosterone production. I dislike SERMs, I've used nolvadex with great success against gyno starting to develop but the antagonist effects are a bit too harsh. I do have to discuss the most recent results with my doc, does anything stand out? You DO NOT Need Aromatase Inhibitors on TRT - AI on TRT. Your battery (Pituitary gland) if low wont start your car (your testicles), if you use another car and jumper cables (HCG) once the car starts your … This finding would indicate that every third or fourth day dosing would be ideal. October 2016: Went to see a urologist that had some knowledge with TRT and hormones. Since my body did respond well to hcg I have been researching people success with an hcg restart which would include much higher doses than what I took. This undesirable side effect can be prevented by using the lowest dose of hCG capable of maintaining serum testosterone levels towards the lower end of the normal range. How is this possible? Then i did some bloodwork on May 15 Results: FD4F6CD0-1D8F-4FFA-841C-65BD4BE0857F.jpeg 1242×299 42.6 KB. For most, the shutdown is mild, and you can recover your HPTA function fast. I hope I get a good endo because I really want to figure out why my SHBG is so high. This is a hormone that is produced by pregnant women and used in fertility medicine. In fact it is even debated whether there are FSH pulses (5,18-20). 1. share. I want to Start round 2. I'm personally worried about the desensitization of the leydig cells from using too much hcg. Concurrent finasteride use for this period until I stopped early 2012. However, prolonged cycles can damage the HPTA and the hormonal system, reducing the chances of making a full recovery. Pharma. Followers of the hCG diet claim that you can lose up to 1 lb. *By december 12th I was starting to feel worse off, and some of my symptoms were starting to appear again. ... Gonadorelin vs HCG TRT - Is there a HCG Ban? Has anyone come across a thread where someone has restarted with lower doses of hcg or know anyone who has? If #1 fails you can buy hcg and PCT meds for good price online. They have never heard of an HPTA restart, the use of HCG with serms or triptorelin. If yes, how is the recovery? Mam lacznie 15,000 iu HCG i 2 opakowania Nolvy. I don’t want to use any Ai. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Ib6 ub9. Got bloods drawn again and my total test was at 194. I did: HCG 250 EOD 14 Feb to 21 March- 5 weeks. Did the restart protocol suppress things and make it look like secondary? I would keep on doing it. "HPTA restart using Clomid" have you got into your situation using steroid? Report Save. Doc checked my previous results and I recommended to restart my HPTA, to which he agreed. September 19 2016: Went to doc and told him my symptoms and ordered more bloodwork: http://imgur.com/eJ9mwMd http://imgur.com/KtkFbPx (CBC+CMP) Doctor said that I am "normal" and no reason to worry despite terrible numbers all around. daily; and up to 10 lbs. I crashed my E2 in the beginning of the protocol and backed off the arimidex which is why my E2 is a little high (although this is not a sensitive E2 test). Dosage. 01-20-2014, 05:32 AM #5. This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone levels. Therapy is typically initiated with hCG alone at a dose of 1,000 IU on alternate days and the dose titrated based on trough testosterone levels and testicular growth (149). It can be worse than trying to find a needle in a haystack, with a who's who of Bro science "professors" adding their own inaccurate take on things. Did blood work multiple times test always low fsh and lh pretty low as well. So I got extra clomid and some nolvadex and started my HPTA restart. What I know is that HCG mimics leutenizing hormone (LH). Restarting the HPTA. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Every aspect of my life I felt improvement in and I told myself that I could never go back to the quality of life I've been feeling the past year. December 1st 2016: Start Nolvdex 20mg EOD + .25mg Arimidex 2x week. Still feeling like crap months after cycle Read a post somewhere on here about guys running power restarts 2500 iu of hcg e0d then clomid at 50 for 30 days and nolva at 20mg for 45 And had great success with it. FSH and LH are at bottom of range but "normal" If I do 2000 i.u. The hypothalamic–pituitary–gonadal axis (HPG axis) refers to the hypothalamus, pituitary gland, and gonadal glands as if these individual endocrine glands were a single entity. Discussion in 'Anabolic Steroids & Prohormones' started by Ib6 ub9, Jun 24, 2020. My question is if I need to taper off and if yes how and furthermore would it be better to do 20mg e2days or 10mg ed because maybe a higher dose at once will create higher peaks which is better or should I just stay with 10mg ed? Overall I am pretty happy with the results as I know that my testicles are fine from the HCG protocol and my body responded pretty well to Nolvadex. Hpta Restart protocol/power pct by Dr. Michael Scally slimjim • Fri, May 30th, '14 00:20 • 35 replies, 12848 views I am 27 years old and shutdown from prior steroid cycles and being very dumb. Clomid Hpta Restart: Check Our Prices! I'm not sure if it's antagonism or the estrogen receptor agonist activity. You can view my other post on ruined sex drive for mor details. Ordered my own simple bloodwork: http://imgur.com/a/yd1an. I ran an 8 week test prop and tren Ace cycle in March. After i had finished cycle i did Clomid/Nolva PCT. So I got extra clomid and some nolvadex and started my HPTA restart. I've never done any … Similar data were reported in a compilation of clinical trial data from Asian, European, Australian and American patients (153). MON, WED, FRI with 1.5 mg ADEX each day for 4 weeks will it jump start my balls or suppress me? How to stop TRT therapy? Even cialis/viagra did not help me. I did: HCG 250 EOD 14 Feb to 21 March- 5 weeks. Alternatively, recombinant human hCG can also be administered subcutaneously from a prefilled syringe. Look up Dr Scally’s power pct. If I were to tell you let’s take the alternator out of your car and we will just keep the engine on the whole time don’t worry about it, would that worry you? The entire time I was taking my pct I tried to eat healthy but normal foods and stay active through weight lifting, intense yard work, and mountain biking. Then i did some bloodwork on May 15 Results: FD4F6CD0-1D8F-4FFA-841C-65BD4BE0857F.jpeg 1242×299 42.6 KB. Gynecomastia is the most common side effect of gonadotropin therapy and is due to hCG stimulation of aromatase causing increased secretion of estradiol. The second phase will comprise of medications to stimulate endogenous production of testosterone, both phases end when labs dictate they are done. November 1 2016: *Start HCG dosage 270IU EOD, Arimidex .25mg 2X week This protocol will be … Clomid Hpta Restart: No Prescription Needed. After a couple of months i found @KSman ‘s post about HPTA restart and i gave it a go. April 2012 : I referred to my GP in the summer seeking treatment and spent the second half of the year having bloods done, awaiting results and basically feeling very ****ty. The authors have simply shown that an HCG regimen followed by PCT will restore HTPA functioning to normal parameters. I personally think it's from the E2 antagonist effects of SERMs in the brain. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.361933014be843c79476.css.map*/._2ppRhKEnnVueVHY_G-Ursy{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:22px 0 0;min-height:200px;overflow:hidden;position:relative}._2KLA5wMaJBHg0K2z1q0ci_{margin:0 -7px -8px}._1zdLtEEpuWI_Pnujn1lMF2{bottom:0;position:absolute;right:52px}._3s18OZ_KPHs2Ei416c7Q1l{margin:0 0 22px;position:relative}.LJjFa8EhquYX8xsTnb9n-{filter:grayscale(40%);position:absolute;top:11px}._2Zjw1QfT_iMHH7rfaGsfBs{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;background:linear-gradient(180deg,rgba(0,121,211,.24),rgba(0,121,211,.12));border-radius:50%;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;height:25px;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center;margin:0 auto;width:25px}._2gaJVJ6_j7vwKV945EABN9{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);border-radius:50%;height:15px;width:15px;z-index:1} QUOTE Human chorionic gonadotropin (hcg) is taken at 2500lU every other day for 16 days. I administered some HCG and tamoxifen following this, trying to actually restart my HPTA. September 08 2016: was experiencing these symptoms slowly increasing the past year: Lack of energy (fatigue), mood changes, brain fog, decreased sex drive, low motivation, sore longer after workouts + decrease strength, some depression. I haven't read about anyone recovering hpta on those doses of hcg- I'm sure they're out there, but I haven't heard of anyone doing it. So i decided to do PowerPCT to restart my HPTA. Continuation of this combined regimen for 12-24 months induces testicular growth in almost all patients, spermatogenesis in approximately 80% and pregnancy rates in the range of 50% (151-153). At the moment of this post my symptoms are coming back and I feel even more depressive at this stage than before. Pulsatile secretion of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus is required for both the initiation and maintenance of the reproductive axis in the human. Yes I train, but I've slowed down the past month- mainly because recovery is brutal and I am sore for days. HCG refers to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin. Most of the posts I've read about restarting hpta were done using crazy amounts of hcg (5,000 iu's e3d). Testosterone: The male sex hormone. You can do a restart [or PCT] with SERM or hCG then SERM. Chce sprobowac jakiegos protokolu restartu HPTA i jestem ciekaw Waszych opinni. OP has more going on than I understand. Ran 10,000 hcg over 3 weeks, and ran clomid/nolva 50/40 for the last 2 weeks. The misuse of HCG can actually become dangerous and serve to work against the recovery of the HPTA (Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis), and possibly cause permanent damage to the Leydig cells of the testes if utilized too frequently, too long, or if HCG doses are too high (desensitization of the Leydig cells to LH and FSH). Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Small-scale studies on hCG (or recombinant LH) may imply that low dose hCG divided into several doses (300 IU over 5 days) may be more effective at producing an optimal testosterone to estradiol ratio compared to a single larger dose (1,500 IU ×1 dose) (21). 14 weeks post serms total T was 341. OP is the reason why you ran nolvadex in conjunction with the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) … Jun 24, 2020. 1a) get testes physically recovered with 4-6 weeks of hCG or SERM [suggest nolvadex, not clomid]. A satisfactory testosterone level on day 15, typically 350 ng/mL or greater, is followed by the oral medications (no HCG) for an additional 15 days (25 mg per day clomiphene would be sufficient). He suggests 8 shots of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) @ 2500iu EOD. I'm going to be using clomid as follows. From the papers I posted in the other thread: Practitioners of male reproductive and sexual medicine must have an intimate understanding of the physiology of male reproductive endocrinology, as such a knowledge is the cornerstone on which hormonal treatments are based. Dr Scally's HPTA restart protocol specifically states HCG to be used. HCG and TRT Testosterone Replacement Therapy Looks like HCG+AI treated you very well. HCG plus clomid and Nolva I was an animal. Please join this discussion about Clomid for attempted HPTA restart within the Anabolic Steroids category. Symptoms were melting away and meaningless. I take Test Cyp and HCG with an AI. daily; and up to 10 lbs. Thanks in advance One of the hardest ACTUAL facts to find when searching through steroid and bodybuilding forums is how testosterone supplementation actually shuts you down. Years of abusing aas in me teens has put me where I am today. If sperm output and testicular growth remain suboptimal the dose of FSH can be gradually increased to 150 U daily. Nolvadex 20mg EOD 22 March to 26 April - 5 Weeks. During the first few weeks, a patient may take HCG daily either aling with or followed by Tamoxifen, Clomiphene, Enclomiphene, or another SERM until testosterone and other hormone levels are at adequate levels. It’s similar to this in some ways. How can free test be above range in one test when your SHBG is that high? I started the hpta restart 2 weeks after my last injection taking clomid at 50/50/25/25 and nolvadex at 25/25/25/25. Therefore, the optimal dosing regimen for either hormone remains elusive and is likely patient specific. But that’s a good place to start. November 28 2016 blood work(only HCG + Arimidex): http://imgur.com/lLwWQqk. What's a good HPTA restart protocol? I thought my testosterone tanked, but I was wrong: December 28 2016 blood work (just nolvadex and arimidex): http://imgur.com/0i1sjff. E2 has a lot of effects in the brain and blocking them, can lead to problems. Concurrent finasteride use for this period until I stopped early 2012. I'm 23 years old, and I've been lifting for about 6 years, 5 days a week, along with cardio each day as well. Everything was just easy for me now, and I didn't realize how hard everything was prior. I administered some HCG and tamoxifen following this, trying to actually restart my HPTA. It's no real secret tha Stick to the protocol of 8-weeks on + 4-weeks PCT + … This may be helpful to someone" lol. Clomid Hpta Restart: No Prescription Needed. I haven't read about anyone recovering hpta on those doses of hcg- I'm sure they're out there, but I haven't heard of anyone doing it. My question is is 30 days enough and should I taper dosage. artm1990. Before my restart I had low Lh and low Fsh which I've had for years since a stupid steroid cycle followed by 6 months of TRT without HCG. Next post will be in 4-6 weeks when I get more bloodwork to see if my HPTA could stand up on its own. I want to try and run a HPTA restart protocol. While the study investigators propose that gonadotropin therapy be considered to induce puberty based on their results, confirmation that such an approach is superior to the conventional practice of giving testosterone would require a large clinical trial the logistics of which would be challenging given the rarity of this patient population. Still feeling like crap months after cycle This initial value is a measure of the ability of the testicles to respond to stimulation from HCG. I started the hpta restart 2 weeks after my last injection taking clomid at 50/50/25/25 and nolvadex at 25/25/25/25. HPTA Restart/Boost Attempt at 23; clemson91 • Thu, Nov 21st, '13 15:18 • 18 replies, 1067 views; OK so I try to keep my introduction as brief as possible. Guys swear by it, but I have no personal experience with it so you’ll have to do your own digging. HPTA restart protocol: Anabolics: 4: Sep 8, 2018: HPTA restart possible after 1 year? My own experience with adex had me feeling awful while on it and the same for at least a month after stopping. It is possible to restart HPTA using following medications: 8 injections of hCG 2,500 a day; Tamoxifen 20 mg per day to 45 days; Fast shipping & discrete packaging! HPTA Restart after TRT: HPTA Restart Protocol. Because these glands often act in concert, physiologists and endocrinologists find it convenient and descriptive to speak of them as a single system. 4 weeks of HCG and then 4 Weeks of Nolvdex, protocol described below. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. It just sucks that I feel like shit right now. The misuse of HCG can actually become dangerous and serve to work against the recovery of the HPTA (Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis), and possibly cause permanent damage to the Leydig cells of the testes if utilized too frequently, too long, or if HCG doses … In contrast, one study shows that hCG induces a biphasic response in testosterone production resulting in a peak at 2–4 hours and a higher one at 48 to 72 hours after one administration of hCG (22). Thanks for the reply. The Australian study reported that prior androgen use is also a negative prognostic indicator of response (152). Holu crap HMG is some expensive stuff. My total T was in the mid 200s for years with LH around 2 and FSH around 1-2. 10 weeks post serms total T was 579. LH stimulates the Leydig cells in the testicles to produce testosterone. This protocol has not been tested in many patients but has shown good results in restoring HPTA in a month. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/ReredditLink.f7b66a91705891e84a09.css.map*/secondary hypogonadal? Fsh still low and LH dropped even lower. HCG should only be used under medical supervision. My SHBG is still very high and my free test did not respond well to the Nolvadex.
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